TR2 Ending

[Sunny]

I hate it ! Tomb Raider, Attila, and now ,300, kill Gerry! Alternative end for Tomb Raider: I get Terry to my home!

[jomas]

I liked the original ending. If you watch carefully, you'll see that Lara's very pushy to Terry all the way through the movie, and ignores him a lot. All the way through, he's trying to get her onside, and then when he finally does, she goes and tries to push him around again. I think he just got sick of it, because he'd been going along with her plan the whole time, and then, just when he wants to really go with his own plan, she won't let him. Which annoys the hell out of him and he puts his foot down.

I also like the original ending because without it, he's exactly the same as Lara, and the "two sides of the same coin" speech doesn't make any sense. They are very alike, both pushy, stubborn, brave and reckless. The difference between them is that Lara has morals, and Terry would do what pleases him, never mind how it affects the rest of the world. He doesn't see consequences, like when he left her and his men in the previous mission. He never thought that "leaving you would hurt so much" and he can't see the true power of the Pandora's Box.

There is, as well, the fact that the alternate ending is very "hollywood" in that your main man cannot be bad. If he is the love of your heroine, he cannot be evil in any way. The alternate ending doesn't allow the watcher to understand just how bad Terry is, and just leaves him with some half muttered things about what he might have done, but I don't believe it in the alternate, and it makes him unmemorable. It really drives home his beliefs when you hear him talking about how much money means to him. It was incredibly brave of the producers to let such an un-Hollywoodish ending to happen, and it makes Terry memorable, in that he is more than a gorgeous love interest to Lara, he has some three dimensional qualities.

I was extremely bored with Tomb Raider, wondering why on earth GB did it, and then he turned around and said "No!" and I sat up and listened intently. Too often are characters black or white. Terry, while being a bad man as we think of them in our society, also loved. And sometimes, you just need a human bad guy.

And plus, Lara didn't deserve to get away with someone else killing him. After the way she tret him, she deserved to have that on her head for the rest of her life.

[sweeney]

I know jomas makes some valid points, but I still HATED that ending. Words cannot describe how much I HATED that ending.

There should have been a different way to show that Terry was flawed, without tacking that on to the end of the movie. It was so sudden and abrupt. Terry had been pretty good up until then, had been honorable and we are led to believe that he's trying to make ammends—to be trustworthy. And then to have him turn around and suddenly do that—such a drastic change—I cannot say how much I hated it.

I think it would have worked better if we'd had some more foreshadowing—more conflicts with Terry where he showed that side of himself, but whatever foreshadowing there was, it wasn't convincing enough. Sure, we are told that Terry was a traitor, but we didn't see that he was a traitor now. All through the movie he's helping, doing the right thing, and looking hurt when Lara is hesitant to trust him. We want to like Terry, and are given enough reasons to think that he's redeemable.

And then he does that, so suddenly.

Oh, I cannot repeat it enough—I HATED, HATED, HATED that ending! As far as I am concerned it does not exist. Whenever I see that movie again, I'm going to stop the film right before that spot where he "turns" and switch over to the alternate ending.

I don't usually get so affected by a movie, and "Tomb Raider" wasn't even that good of a movie. But Terry was so likable and I guess I like to believe in "second chances." I'd feel the same way about the character, no matter who played him. I love "second chance" stories, and I was believing all through the movie that Terry was a "second chance" in the works. And to have that suddenly yanked out from me—I HATED it! So much!

[jomas]

Sure, we are told that Terry was a traitor, but we didn't see that he was a traitor now. All through the movie he's helping, doing the right thing, and looking hurt when Lara is hesitant to trust him.

But you notice that when he says that he was sad to leave her, he also says he wasn't too bothered about leaving his men and his country. Basically, the only thing that he really cared about was her.

I must admit, the bit in the real ending that really disturbed me and I didn't believe was when he pulled the gun on her. Seeing as she was the only person he valued, that shocked me. Terry wouldn't do that!

(Ok, so he obviously would, but hey)

[sweeney]

But you notice that when he says that he was sad to leave her, he also says he wasn't too bothered about leaving his men and his country. Basically, the only thing that he really cared about was her.

That didn't suffice for me, I guess. Sure, he was a scoundrel, but he's a redeemable scoundrel. If we had more comments like that—more evidence of that sort of attitude—then it would have been different. But he made that comment near the start of the film, and it was easy to overlook after he did so many "right" things and was so supportive. It's easy to think that he said what he said as a form of bravado—he didn't mean it from the core of his being, he was just saying it.

Seeing as she was the only person he valued, that shocked me. Terry wouldn't do that!

(Ok, so he obviously would, but hey)

I don't even want to register in my mind that fact that Terry pulled a gun on her. It just cannot compute. Nope, no way. No how.

I'm not completely resistent to Terry being unredeemable, but to take him from mostly good guy to evil traitor who will kill the woman he supposedly loves in a split second was just way too much. HATED it! (Do you get the impression that I HATED it? Because I did, you know! )

[jomas]

But he made that comment near the start of the film,

Well, I was referring to the stakeout scene where she sticks the knife in the table... but he says it at the prison as well I think...

And when he says "Wait for my signal, eh?" you can tell he's getting really sick of her.

I'm not completely resistent to Terry being unredeemable, but to take him from mostly good guy to evil traitor who will kill the woman he supposedly loves in a split second was just way too much.

Oh, I believed it until he pulled the gun. Then again, I hate Lara for pushing Hillary and Bryce around as well. And she was way too rude to those MI6 guys at the start.

HATED it! (Do you get the impression that I HATED it? Because I did, you know! )

Really? It's not coming across at all!

[sweeney]

Well, I was referring to the stakeout scene where she sticks the knife in the table... but he says it at the prison as well I think...

Hmmm . . . I can't remember where that is, exactly, but it seemed like it was nearer to the beginning than not. But you know, I really can't recall—I've only seen the movie once so far.

And when he says "Wait for my signal, eh?" you can tell he's getting really sick of her.

I took it as sarcasm, but not getting really sick of her. Though I can see why it would grate after a while.

Oh, I believed it until he pulled the gun. Then again, I hate Lara for pushing Hillary and Bryce around as well. And she was way too rude to those MI6 guys at the start.

Come to think of it, she is kind of insufferable. But I figured that he was already used to that. It just wasn't enough of a foreshadowing for me. I could have accepted some resistance or conflict, some argument with her about Pandora's box, something that indicates that he's just not going to be a right "fit" for her, but for him to hit her and then pull a gun on her—I absolutely loathed that. There is no way that worked for me.

Really? It's not coming across at all!

I am known for being too subtle. I'll need to work on that!

[jomas]

But I figured that he was already used to that

That's a good point. I'd forgotten about that. You don't spend five months with someone without knowing their main traits - Silly Jo!

I am known for being too subtle. I'll need to work on that!

Oh, most definitely!

[MissDay7000]

The ending completely took me by surprise, because like it's been said, up till that point Terry's character had been shown to be completely honest and out to do good, but then all of a sudden he is driven by greed to beat up and try to shoot Lara!
It didn't bother me as much as other people were but I still think it should have ended the way you expect it to: Lara and Terry destroy the box, climb out of the cave, and walk into the horizon together as one tough couple!

[Marason]

I always shut off the movie right after the big Lara/Terry kiss...yeah, that way it ends in a good way.
No Terry going psycho and getting shot - just a nice kiss and Happily Ever After, lalalalala!